And now for something completely different...

[Mobbelsche]

Maybe "mentally or intellectually demanding"? I mean. it's got something to do with using your brain. At least in this very case of movies.
In other circumstances, sophisticated is a quite nice translation, I think.

 

[ni-kulo]

I really like that one too *g*
I'm not sure that is cockney though.
€: just checked on wiki. Yeah, that's it, cockney! Love it

Oh, by the way, if you want to see a very good movie with a lot of different english accents in it you have to see Gosford Park.

Well, if you are used to what i would call "interesting" movies, and not some hollywood action bullshit. So this is not for everyone, it is quite "anspruchsvoll"

i checked it too, mike is brilliant though ;D

i'll try to get to "Gosford Park",
and yes, i try to stick to the Movies, that require at least a bit "intelligence"!

i tried watching Trainspotting in "engish", (all with the scottish accent) but its damn hard to understand^.

anyway, i like the hollywood action-bullshit too ;.

@ anspruchsvoll: i'd say sophisticated, or in a artistic way, "highbrow".



anyone watched "Memento"? = mindfuck² , love it though :;D!

ch33rs niCo!

 

[drago]

Hmm time flies at the moment. I just saw that my last post here is 5 days old. Amazing.


As we have tested it for some months now, would you say there are enough interested people to give an english subforum a chance? I have some doubts because with smalltalk only you can't fill a Forum and for guides or anything else that could be interesting we don't seem to be enough people.

 

[HorstSchlemmer]

I would be interested in a conversation in English as well, mainly because I have to train my everyday English a bit.

In my opinion, you could find out if a sub forum would work by testing it with a clan forum.
This could be linked in some of the well frequented sub forums, so that it can be found by interested people.
There you could translate Guides or the latest news.
If this works, I think that it would be possible to create a sub forum.

 

[drago]

We've already discussed the idea of a clan forum. The main problem is that nobody comes there accidentally. You need serious publicity to fill a clan forum with more than a dozen people.

 

[Mobbelsche]

I think there's definitely the chance to create a subforum not only related to off-topic chat. And there are people out there looking for english guides and help. Just yesterday someone dropped by on the iRC-channel asking for hints on building a sorceress. Noone could actually help him/her...
Besides, the only true competition on strategy and tactics related topics in english would be the Basin. But they are a north-american page (although they have quite some members from Europe).
There are some challenges that have yet to be solved: First, we would need at least one moderator who is willing and able to dedicate a lot of time. Second, we have to build a basis of game mechanics related stuff and guides for standard builds. This means either rewriting them or asking the authors permission to translate (and then actually translate) them. Third (and maybe most important), after launching it we have to announce it in public broadly to get some attention and users.
It's really a lot of work but I'd love to help. As I'm currently writing my diploma thesis I'm afraid this would mostly be translation and frequent posting.

I like Horst's idea to test Diablo2-related request in a subforum. Still, the main thing in my opinion would remain the promotion of it. People from all over Europe have to have a reason to actually go to a .de-domain...
So, count me in for this project. It might have success

Greets,
Mobbel

 

[drago]

Anybody else waiting for work ?

 

[TwinYawgmoth]

Anybody else waiting for work ?

Normally that would be the point where I yell "me!" and make promises that I can't keep ...

...but although I like to write a lot and like it a lot (), I have no time for further obligations ...

Simon

 

[Riven]

I might have time for translation, since I do that here anyway to earn some money on the side. I hope we get something like a subforum going in the near future. Its a pity that only a few poeple talk and post here. In the end this is still a german forum and to have parts in english will not be easy to do.

 

[Mobbelsche]

I might have time for translation, since I do that here anyway to earn some money on the side. I hope we get something like a subforum going in the near future. Its a pity that only a few poeple talk and post here. In the end this is still a german forum and to have parts in english will not be easy to do.

As I stated earlier, it might not be that hard to start parts in english. It's just time-consuming. The hardest part will be to get a recognizably large part of the community to post there. Otherwise, it'd be a stillborn child...

 

[~Polgara~]

Do you mean, a sub-forum here on d2.de? If yes: I think, like Riven, that not many people here posts in english. It's a german forum here. I don't think, many people would post in english.

Perhaps we can try it in the clan-forum. In my opinion, we can see, how many people are interested.

 

[drago]

A test project would always be in a clan forum, that's for sure.

To do it right later on, one maybe could get better results if ingame as a whole is interested in english subpages so they could create a central entry point, maybe even ingame.com or something like that.

There is a typical beginnig problem here: without content nobody will visit the forum and with few visitors there is no content.

 

[drago]

Some weeks since the last post here. Let's do some Upping

Does anybode have ideas how to do Übertristram with a Bow Amazone? Of course I did some planning but maybe I missed something valuable.

These are the facts

- single char, only my Ama on her own, starting with organs, ending with torch (hopefully)
- no high runes (anything above vex), so no cta also
- no questions in the ama subforum, I could do that myself if I wanted to
- My Ama is already at level 86, skilled as frost maiden, no Spear/Javelin at all, high Valkyrie and Decoy, Rest physical

Any clues?

 

[Mobbelsche]

Forget your bow, you'll have to go melee... And you'll need lots of CB and some Open Wounds:

Supposing that you put a lot of points right into Dexterity, I think you have plenty of attack rating. I'd try a 6 socket Phaseblade with 6 Shael or 5 Shael + Eth for maximum velocity, combined with Goreriders, Guillaume's Face, Dracul's or Life-Tap-Wand. As Shield you might want to try KoKoMal in a Tower Shield or a Stormshield. That should provide nice blockrating (assuming dex ) and lots of resits. A big problem might be your low life. That will throw you into the hit recovery animation when you get hit. And you WILL be hit a lot. So pack some fhr! You might want to get a 'Stone'-Duskshroud which provides 60%fhr. It's a really nice melee-armor at an affordable price.

All in all this will cost you 2 Ko, 1 Mal, 6-7 Shael, 1 Um, 1 Pul, 1 Lum, a few PG's. All of this can be easily found in TC85 and/or Countess's Tower.

Greets,
Mobbel

P.S.: One more word on "Stone": Try using the Clay Golem to lure out Mephisto first. He'll kill the golem instantly though. You'll want to recast it directly in front of Mephisto to slow him down some.

 

[drago]

Forget your bow, you'll have to go melee...

The answer is a clear no.

My declared goal is Trist with a Bowie

Stone is a nice idea, I have one somewhere. Didn't think of the golem by now. That would be three Minions

 

[Mobbelsche]

Well, normally the effect of choice would be CB. Unfortunately it's usefulness is crippled with ranged weaponry. Still, you could try it. Next thing is to look for Chance of open wounds which would provide another reliable source of damage or at least would stop regeneration. Then you'll need very very stable minions, at least versus Mephisto. That can be done with standard mercenary stuff (Reaper's, some armor with lots of DR [Shaftstop comes too mind], Stealskull or Tal's Mask) and at least 17 points in Valkyrie and/or some points in A/D/E and Decoy as synergies to Valk. Infinity for the mercenary might help, although these runes ar far too expensive or far too duped But it would dramatically drop the enemies' defense which in turn would boost your AR.
Now something important: To trigger all those effects with a bow, strafe is the skill of choice and it's best used with a fast bow. WWS springs to my mind ('cause I love it <3 ). It's already fast, offer DS per clvl (which lets you completely ignore Critical Strike and that frees points for a stronger Valkyrie or better evade or...), triggers AD fairly often (and THAT boosts damage my, my...), offers two more sockets to be filled with more damage or ias (or both) and on top of that it gives 40 prismatic resistances which you'll need badly (especially against Mephisto). So I would go for a Strafeazon-Build with upped WWS( shael'ed or MaxDMG/IAS-Jools), Gores, Guillaumes, Stone, Laying of Hands, lots of points in evasive skills, maxed Valkyrie. Still, I don't think that CB will be THE uber-killer as it is with melee attacks... But it's worth a try. You might want to try it with Baal on Hell difficulty, though.
Another possibility to deliver trigger effects would be Guided Arrow but I consider it too slow to be overly useful.

Another thing that might be useful: As you already consider using Clay Golem to slow the enemy you could also use Riphook as a backup weapon. It'll provide another 30% of slow monster which will stack with the golem's slow (that'll be 60% at slvl 16 already). The nice side-effect of a very slow boss-monster is that it won't use it's special attacks anymore. This might come handy

Oh, another thought comes to my mind: You'll have a hell of a time getting rid of the spawning minions. You could buy a wand with Terror-Charges for crowd control or Attract-Charges for the same effect.

Greets,
Mobbel

 

[Kage]

also an idea would be taking delirium as a helmet, it has nice crowd control effects, and as a bowie you shouldn't be turned into a puppet alto often... but then you need to get cb from somewhere else... I think trying to get a lot of cb on the ubers through a lot of hits is better than through a lot of cb... it would be too constraining

 

[drago]

ok, let me tell you my plans as far as I have thought about them.

First: I know that I need to separate the 3 big bisses and fight one at a time. Should not be a greater problem.

Second: I know that they spawn a lot of minions. If I want to concentrate on the boss, there must be a way to get rid of the minions or to distract them. Therefore I will either use Windforce with a DOL rune, which causes monsters to flee (hopefully out of range), but my first weapon of choice is silence in a nice bow, that has DOL also and additionally "hit blinds target". Windforce has knockback so I probably have to try which is better.

As I want to concentrate on AI-Curses I cannot use WWS. AD would overwrite the AI curse.

But the main reason for Silence is 75 to all Resis which will be useful at least against Mephisto.

Third: My preferred armor at the moment is duress which has CB and OW, both needed badly, helmet should either be Gulli or my own kiras socketed with a nice jewel. Maybe the latter to get rid of Minions and for Meph and the first to fight dia and baal.

Rest contains of raven, TG, Dwarfen, boots with CB (what's the name?), crafted gloves with 10% CB or LOH and Highlords for speed mainly.

As I will need torch and anni in my inventory for full resistances I will not use strafe very often, that probably would kick me out of the game. I will only use that to cause monster flee if they are to near.

I also will need to make use of some buildings, causing monsters to spawn outside or the boss inside or something like that, because I only have decoy and valk as good blockers. I don't think it is possible to keep the merc alive all the time. I will see.

As far as I know, CB is halfed on ranged weapons, so I will need double time as with a melee char. But, unlike a ninja or even a Summoner Merc the GA always hits, so I only have to deal with monster block in that situation.


My plan is, to separate one of the big bosses, focus the boss on the valk, have the Merc fight the minions and decoy as strategic minion. Then I should be able to alternately have minions flee and fight the big boss with GA.

I probably need to lay some arrows before I even start the fight and I really don't know how to kill the last 10% of the bosses life. Maybe I will do a weapon switch near the end to get Windforce as "last hits wonder".


So far for the theory.

 

[Mobbelsche]

As far as I know, CB is halfed on ranged weapons, so I will need double time as with a melee char. But, unlike a ninja or even a Summoner Merc the GA always hits, so I only have to deal with monster block in that situation.

The chance of CB stays the same, even with ranged attacks. The damage you actually deal is halved.

I would try to pack the mercenary with CB as he will be much faster at jabbing the boss and delivering CB as you could ever be with your GA. Therefore, you could focus on damage for the last 20-10% (We're talking about something between 60k and 150k life here!). And as you already said: This will be the problem. Even more so, as you do not want to use AD or Decrepify...
It might sound funny but your easiest prey will be Mephisto as he has "only" 20% physical resists. The others have 50% both. And physical damage will be your only option as all of them are highly resistant or even immune. As long as you are able to stop their healing, keep your minions alive, and control the spawns it's just a matter of time to kill them. So go for high Critical Strike for double damage, Windforce and pack lots of min/max damage SCs. Other bows would be GMB 'Silence' (okayish damage, relatively fast, nice stats), GMB 'Call to Arms' (might be too expensive though), GMB 'Harmony' (nice low cost runeword, lots of punch, some elemental damage, unfortunately it's quite slow), GMB 'Passion' (with at least 200%ED <- varies widely), and just for the sake of completeness GMB 'Breath of the Dying'. The MB or GMB have the great advantage that you won't need as much strength as for Windforce. This lets you boost you dexterity which in turn will result in more damage and AR.

Greets,
Mobbel

 

[drago]

Therefore, you could focus on damage for the last 20-10% (We're talking about something between 60k and 150k life here!)

As long as the actual life of the boss is above 100K CB will do enough damage. I rather care for the last 20-40 K

Even more so, as you do not want to use AD or Decrepify...

If the Merc has a Schnitters maybe Decreprify willl be on the boss long enough. My only problem seems to be the distance between me and the boss. I don't know if the Merc ever reaches him. Maybe I will use a teleport amu for that purpose.

and pack lots of min/max damage SCs.

I will use everything I have

Other bows would be GMB 'Silence'

I would really like to see such a bow, but unfortunately it won't work with 5 sockets

GMB 'Harmony'

The Elemental damage on that bow won't help here and it probably is to slow also.
CtA will not be there, I don't have the runes. I also would prefer to get it without BO. BOTD of course disqualifies, too. I will think about Passion though.

The MB or GMB have the great advantage that you won't need as much strength as for Windforce.

My Ama already carries Wf and I won't make a new one. I also don't think that 50% more ED from Dex will do any real difference. AR is not neded with GA and won't get too much boost with some more Dex. As it won't be possible with a dex only Ama I spent much Points in vitality already. I will keep some 30-40 Points reserved for a last minute decision.