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Fakten-Sammlung zum Diablo 3 Addon Reaper of Souls
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ladriel
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Ähm nein, weil dann alle wieder bei Paragonlvl 0 starten?
€dit: Ups, da war einer schneller.
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Da könnte ich glatt unterschreiben. Es ist schon recht verwunderlich, so "unzufrieden" man ist, gespielt hat mans immer iund immer wieder ...
RoS dürfte im 5. Akt durchaus einige Nettigkeiten mitbringen, die den Kauf lohnen. Der neue Char, die Blechbüchse, ist aber kein Kaufgrund, was aber immer noch genug Grund überlässt.
DarkSeraph
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Ja bei Charlevel 0, aber das Paralvl bleibt doch? Oder hab ich da was falsch verstanden?
Ich habs bisher so verstanden, dass ich in jeder Laddersaison Erfahrung sammle, die ich am Ende der Ladder komplett auf mein Accountkonto verbucht bekomme, welches dann um x Paragonlevel wächst. Und die stehen mir dann auch zur Verfügung...
Oder gilt das dann nur für NL?
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Aaaaaah ok 
Dann geb ich der Ladder vielleicht doch ne Chance, wenn Loot 2.0 funktioniert.
Unendliches Paragon können die dann aber auch gleich wieder weglassen... Bringt ja dann nix.
Dann geb ich der Ladder vielleicht doch ne Chance, wenn Loot 2.0 funktioniert. Unendliches Paragon können die dann aber auch gleich wieder weglassen... Bringt ja dann nix.
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zumal sich die paragon erfahrung über mehrere vergangene seasons auf dem NL konto aufaddieren dürfte.
DarkSeraph
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Wenn die Ladder so kommt wie erwartet, also mit exklusiv Content, wird kaum jmd NL spielen, also ist der Punkt dann irgendwo leider egal.
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ist halt "nett" wenn dein NL-paragon level irgend wann 500 oder 12345 ist 
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Solangs keine Ladderexklusive Inhalte gibt, Nescha. Aber das hatten wir ja schon an anderer Stelle zur Genüge.
Neues zum Paragon 2.0:
Voller Bluepost
Neues zum Paragon 2.0:
Let's Talk About Paragon 2.0 - Forums - Diablo IIITravis Day schrieb:
Voller Bluepost
I've seen a lot of assorted questions floating about so I wanted to take a little time explaining some of the current details of the system. As always this is not completely final and is subject to change.
First, let me start with the intent of the system so everyone has a bit of context. The initial implementation of the Paragon system was meant to help provide players a form of end game progression. The primary end game progression is items; Diablo is all about finding awesome items, and using them to murder the hordes of evil. Sometimes, though, you may go for a while and not find a new exciting item, the primary goal of the Paragon system is provide you with some form of tangible benefit for killing lots of monsters even if you didn't find new items.
The initial system accomplishes what it set out to do, but unfortunately there comes a time when you have maxed out that progression and suddenly you start losing out on part of your reward for killing monsters (experience). The first change to the Paragon 2.0, removing the cap, is intended to ensure that, no matter how much or how little you play, you will always be earning that experience.
The next thing that we wanted to address with Paragon 2.0 is that, since Paragon experience was associated with a specific character, it had the unfortunate side-effect of making players feel more tied to a specific character than we wanted them to be. If you have a Paragon 50 Wizard it makes it that much harder to convince yourself to try a new character because some people would feel like they are "wasting experience," either on the Wizard or on the new character they wanted to try out. We want players to feel that they are being rewarded for their time investment, regardless of what character they are in the mood to play or experiment with. This is the primary reason we are changing Paragon levels to be account-wide instead of character specific. We want people who have invested time earning Paragon experience to be able to enjoy all the changes and new content the expansion introduces without having a sense of loss for "wasting Paragon levels" on a character, especially since the Crusader is so awesome I expect 200% of players to just re-roll
Lastly, spendable points. Anyone who has played Diablo games in the past has some fond memories (or not, if you ever misclicked the wrong stat) of picking how they wanted to spend their points whenever they leveled. While giving players more character customization options isn't the core intent of the system, it did present itself as a good place to introduce the mechanic. Players already earn bonus stats, Magic Find, and Gold Find when they earn a Paragon level, but we thought giving players more options and letting them choose what they wanted their bonus to be was just better all around. When you gain a Paragon level in the new system, you will receive a Paragon point to spend. What category that point can be spent in is determined by what Paragon level you earn. Paragon level 1 gives you a point to spend in a Core Stat, Paragon 2 gives you a point in the Offensive category, 3 is Defensive, and 4 is Utility (Adventure). Each Paragon level past that follows the same pattern. At present all categories other than Core Stats (Str, Int, Dex, Vit) have a cap on the number of points that can be allocated to them, which also means there is a cap to the total number of points that 3 of the 4 categories can have. If you reach Paragon 800, you will have maxed the number of points that can be allocated to the Offensive, Defensive, and Utility categories and all future Paragon levels will grant you a point in the Core Stat category instead.
Hopefully this covers the majority of questions that people have. While I am incredibly busy working on the expansion at present, I'll do my best to answer whatever remaining questions people have about Paragon 2.0.
First, let me start with the intent of the system so everyone has a bit of context. The initial implementation of the Paragon system was meant to help provide players a form of end game progression. The primary end game progression is items; Diablo is all about finding awesome items, and using them to murder the hordes of evil. Sometimes, though, you may go for a while and not find a new exciting item, the primary goal of the Paragon system is provide you with some form of tangible benefit for killing lots of monsters even if you didn't find new items.
The initial system accomplishes what it set out to do, but unfortunately there comes a time when you have maxed out that progression and suddenly you start losing out on part of your reward for killing monsters (experience). The first change to the Paragon 2.0, removing the cap, is intended to ensure that, no matter how much or how little you play, you will always be earning that experience.
The next thing that we wanted to address with Paragon 2.0 is that, since Paragon experience was associated with a specific character, it had the unfortunate side-effect of making players feel more tied to a specific character than we wanted them to be. If you have a Paragon 50 Wizard it makes it that much harder to convince yourself to try a new character because some people would feel like they are "wasting experience," either on the Wizard or on the new character they wanted to try out. We want players to feel that they are being rewarded for their time investment, regardless of what character they are in the mood to play or experiment with. This is the primary reason we are changing Paragon levels to be account-wide instead of character specific. We want people who have invested time earning Paragon experience to be able to enjoy all the changes and new content the expansion introduces without having a sense of loss for "wasting Paragon levels" on a character, especially since the Crusader is so awesome I expect 200% of players to just re-roll
Lastly, spendable points. Anyone who has played Diablo games in the past has some fond memories (or not, if you ever misclicked the wrong stat) of picking how they wanted to spend their points whenever they leveled. While giving players more character customization options isn't the core intent of the system, it did present itself as a good place to introduce the mechanic. Players already earn bonus stats, Magic Find, and Gold Find when they earn a Paragon level, but we thought giving players more options and letting them choose what they wanted their bonus to be was just better all around. When you gain a Paragon level in the new system, you will receive a Paragon point to spend. What category that point can be spent in is determined by what Paragon level you earn. Paragon level 1 gives you a point to spend in a Core Stat, Paragon 2 gives you a point in the Offensive category, 3 is Defensive, and 4 is Utility (Adventure). Each Paragon level past that follows the same pattern. At present all categories other than Core Stats (Str, Int, Dex, Vit) have a cap on the number of points that can be allocated to them, which also means there is a cap to the total number of points that 3 of the 4 categories can have. If you reach Paragon 800, you will have maxed the number of points that can be allocated to the Offensive, Defensive, and Utility categories and all future Paragon levels will grant you a point in the Core Stat category instead.
Hopefully this covers the majority of questions that people have. While I am incredibly busy working on the expansion at present, I'll do my best to answer whatever remaining questions people have about Paragon 2.0.
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Die Erklärung in dem Spoiler finde ich ganz gut. Zumindest scheint man sich Gedanken gemacht zu haben. Aber uns zu ermöglichen selber zu statten und dann doch wieder die Reihenfolge vorzuschreiben... Nunja...
Verstanden hätte ich ja, wenn die verschiedenen Kategorien erst mit fortschreitendem Paragon frei werden, von mir aus in 10er Schritten, aber das jetzt wieder alles step by step vorzugeben ist dann ja auch nur noch wieder halbe Freiheit.
Verstanden hätte ich ja, wenn die verschiedenen Kategorien erst mit fortschreitendem Paragon frei werden, von mir aus in 10er Schritten, aber das jetzt wieder alles step by step vorzugeben ist dann ja auch nur noch wieder halbe Freiheit.
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Zumindest MF war drin
ParagonBonusLabel_Magic_Find - Magic Find
ParagonBonusValue_Magic_Find - [{VALUE}*100|2+|]
[Spoilers Ahead] D3: Reaper of Souls - Paragon Bonuses - Diablo III General Discussion - Diablo Discussion and Community Forums - DiabloFans.com
Die anderen Boni sind aber tatsächlich genau passend 16 (wenn man mal die verschiedenen Ressourcen der Klassen zu je einem Punkt zusammenfasst)
Gabs schon, außer für die Core Stats, eine Auflistung was wo drin ist?
Edit:
Mal mein Versuch der Einordnung
core
ParagonBonusLabel_Strength - Strength
ParagonBonusLabel_Dexterity - Dexterity
ParagonBonusLabel_Intelligence - Intelligence
ParagonBonusLabel_Vitality - Vitality
offensive
ParagonBonusLabel_Attacks_Per_Second_Bonus - Attack Speed
ParagonBonusLabel_Crit_Percent_Bonus_Capped - Critical Hit Chance
ParagonBonusLabel_Crit_Damage_Percent - Critical Hit Damage
defensive
ParagonBonusLabel_Resistance_All - Resist All
ParagonBonusLabel_Armor_Bonus_Percent - Armor
ParagonBonusLabel_Dodge_Chance_Bonus - Dodge
ParagonBonusLabel_Hitpoints_Percent - Life
utility
ParagonBonusLabel_Movement_Bonus_Run_Speed - Movement Speed
ParagonBonusLabel_Gold_PickUp_Radius - Gold Pickup Radius
Unklar
ParagonBonusLabel_Power_Cooldown_Reduction_Percent - Cooldown Reduction
ParagonBonusLabel_Resource_Max_Bonus_Mana - Maximum Mana
ParagonBonusLabel_Resource_Max_Bonus_Fury - Maximum Fury
ParagonBonusLabel_Resource_Max_Bonus_Spirit - Maximum Spirit
ParagonBonusLabel_Resource_Max_Bonus_Arcanum - Maximum Arcane Power
ParagonBonusLabel_Resource_Max_Bonus_Hatred - Maximum Hatred
ParagonBonusLabel_Resource_Regen_Bonus_Percent_Mana - Mana Regeneration %
ParagonBonusLabel_Resource_Regen_Bonus_Percent_Fury - Fury Generation %
ParagonBonusLabel_Resource_Regen_Bonus_Percent_Hatred - Hatred Regeneration %
ParagonBonusLabel_Resource_Regen_Bonus_Percent_Spirit - Spirit Generation %
ParagonBonusLabel_Resource_Regen_Bonus_Percent_Arcanum - Arcane Power Regeneration %
Cooldown Reduction kann ja, je nach Skill, sowohl offensiv als auch defensiv sein, defensiv ist aber schon voll. Würde aber sozusagen passen, wenn die beiden Ressourcenteile gemeinsam zu utility gehen und nicht eins von beidem als offensiv gilt.
Edit: Natürlich die Ressource vom Crusader noch dazu. Da fehlt aber gerade der zweite String im Datamining.
ParagonBonusLabel_Resource_Max_Bonus_Faith - Maximum Wrath
ParagonBonusLabel_Strength - Strength
ParagonBonusLabel_Dexterity - Dexterity
ParagonBonusLabel_Intelligence - Intelligence
ParagonBonusLabel_Vitality - Vitality
offensive
ParagonBonusLabel_Attacks_Per_Second_Bonus - Attack Speed
ParagonBonusLabel_Crit_Percent_Bonus_Capped - Critical Hit Chance
ParagonBonusLabel_Crit_Damage_Percent - Critical Hit Damage
defensive
ParagonBonusLabel_Resistance_All - Resist All
ParagonBonusLabel_Armor_Bonus_Percent - Armor
ParagonBonusLabel_Dodge_Chance_Bonus - Dodge
ParagonBonusLabel_Hitpoints_Percent - Life
utility
ParagonBonusLabel_Movement_Bonus_Run_Speed - Movement Speed
ParagonBonusLabel_Gold_PickUp_Radius - Gold Pickup Radius
Unklar
ParagonBonusLabel_Power_Cooldown_Reduction_Percent - Cooldown Reduction
ParagonBonusLabel_Resource_Max_Bonus_Mana - Maximum Mana
ParagonBonusLabel_Resource_Max_Bonus_Fury - Maximum Fury
ParagonBonusLabel_Resource_Max_Bonus_Spirit - Maximum Spirit
ParagonBonusLabel_Resource_Max_Bonus_Arcanum - Maximum Arcane Power
ParagonBonusLabel_Resource_Max_Bonus_Hatred - Maximum Hatred
ParagonBonusLabel_Resource_Regen_Bonus_Percent_Mana - Mana Regeneration %
ParagonBonusLabel_Resource_Regen_Bonus_Percent_Fury - Fury Generation %
ParagonBonusLabel_Resource_Regen_Bonus_Percent_Hatred - Hatred Regeneration %
ParagonBonusLabel_Resource_Regen_Bonus_Percent_Spirit - Spirit Generation %
ParagonBonusLabel_Resource_Regen_Bonus_Percent_Arcanum - Arcane Power Regeneration %
Cooldown Reduction kann ja, je nach Skill, sowohl offensiv als auch defensiv sein, defensiv ist aber schon voll. Würde aber sozusagen passen, wenn die beiden Ressourcenteile gemeinsam zu utility gehen und nicht eins von beidem als offensiv gilt.
Edit: Natürlich die Ressource vom Crusader noch dazu. Da fehlt aber gerade der zweite String im Datamining.
ParagonBonusLabel_Resource_Max_Bonus_Faith - Maximum Wrath
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IkariX
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Muss aber nicht heißen, dass es zum statten ist. So wie ich das verstanden habe hat jeder Tab 4 mögliche Stats.
Core: Str, Dex, Int, Vita
Off: CC, CD, IAS, Cooldown
Def: Life, Rüstung, Resi, Dodge
Util: Ressource, Ressourcereg (2 Ressourcenstats pro Char), goldpickup, Movementspeed
Laut Bluepost:
Three out of the four categories (Offensive, Defensive, and Adventure) can be maxed out if you put a total of 200 points into each of those categories
Man kann also maximal 200 Punkte pro Tab setzen. Laut gamescom screenshot, ist das Cap pro Stat bei 50 Punkten. Ergibt 4 Stats pro Tab.
Magicfind passt nicht in die Gleichung, ergo ist es ein Sonderstat, der nebenbei automatisch kommt
Core: Str, Dex, Int, Vita
Off: CC, CD, IAS, Cooldown
Def: Life, Rüstung, Resi, Dodge
Util: Ressource, Ressourcereg (2 Ressourcenstats pro Char), goldpickup, Movementspeed
Laut Bluepost:
Three out of the four categories (Offensive, Defensive, and Adventure) can be maxed out if you put a total of 200 points into each of those categories
Man kann also maximal 200 Punkte pro Tab setzen. Laut gamescom screenshot, ist das Cap pro Stat bei 50 Punkten. Ergibt 4 Stats pro Tab.
Magicfind passt nicht in die Gleichung, ergo ist es ein Sonderstat, der nebenbei automatisch kommt
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Und? Kann Blizz doch Wurscht sein, wo ich meine Punkte wann verteile. Zumindest wenns im Addon mal klappt, dass man auch Def braucht... Bisher war es ja eher so: Def bis man 2-3 Treffer wegsteckt, Rest in DPS.
Falls das aber immer noch so ist, kann ich verstehen wieso sie das "Skillsystem" und die Nonbalance dann kaschieren wollen. Ansonsten hab ich da kein Verständnis für.